Irenéo Ramírez
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1st. wife: Dorotéa Lugo
Daughter of José Luz Lugo and Mariana Josefa Caballero [There was an earlier note: "her father may have been named Pedro"] 2nd. wife Elena Viscaino
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Irinéo Ramírez married first wife Dorotéa Lugo May 15, 1823
They had three children:
1. Luis Ramírez born circa 1825 married Dominga Leyva October 11, 1847.
2. Juan Ramírez married Guadalupe Contreras November 24, 1859.
Juan and Guadalupe had two children:
(A) Daughter Jesús Ramírez born 1863 and died the same year
(B) Daughter Praxedis Ramírez born in 1875. She married Filberto Vásquez Feb 1, 1892.
3. Jesus Ramirez married Natividad Carrasco July 13, 1850 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
They had eleven children.
(1). Daughter Canuta Ramirez was baptized in Jesus Nazareno Temple January 27, 1853.
She married Jose Oliveres July 24, 1869 in the same church.
They had two children:
a. Daughter Mariana Oliveres was born in 1874 in Mexico.
She married Jesús Garcia February 13, 1888 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
By 1900 they had settled in the village of La Coyota, along the Rio Grande River about two miles west of Castolon, Texas.
Jesus engaged in farming, raised some sheep and goats, and sold fuel wood to the mining companies in Terlingua and Study Butte.
Mariana and Jesus had thirteen children. See http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/jesus-garcia.html for details.
b. Daughter Maria Jesus Oliveres was born in 1877 in Ojinaga.
She married Tiburcio Ramirez, her first cousin, circa 1900,
and in 1909 the couple settled in La Coyota, near the home of Jesus' sister Mariana.
For details see the Tiburcio Ramirez Family History at http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/tiburcio-ramirez.html
(2). Son Crispín Ramirez was born in 1854 in Ojinaga.
He married Micaela Tercero in Jesus Nazareno Temple June 10, 1875.
She was the daughter of Marcos Tercero and Dorotea Flores and was born in Rosales, Mexico in 1857.
Crispin and Micaela had five children:
a. Son Tiburcio Tercero Ramirez was born April 6, 1873 in Mexico.
He married Maria de Jesus Oliveres. They settled in the village of La Coyota in 1909.
For details see the Tiburcio Ramirez Family History at http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/tiburcio-ramirez.html
b. Son Juan Ramirez was born in 1875.
He married Paula Valenzuela, daughter of Felipe Valenzuela and Maria de Jesus Bustamante.
c. Son Fernando Ramirez was born in 1878. He married Elisa Ornelas in Jesus Nazareno Temple November 7, 1898.
She was the daughter of Florencio Ornelas and Leandra Najera.
They had one known child:
aa. Daughter Leandra Ramirez was born April 21, 1909.
She was baptized in Chisos November 3, 1909 by Father Brocardus. Her godparents were Juan and Jesus Peña.
d. Son Domingo Ramirez was born in 1894.
He married Maria de Jesus Carrasco November 11, 1918 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Catarino Carrasco and Hilaria Carrasco.
e. Daughter Dorotea Ramirez was born in 1899.
She married Juan Madrid December 7, 1919 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
He was the son of Jesus Madrid and Sabas Carrasco.
(3). Son Nicolas Ramirez was born in 1856.
He married Jesus Gomez in Jesus Nazareno Temple April 25, 1885.
She was the daughter of Jose Gomez and Antonia Granado.
(4). Son Julian Ramirez was born in 1863.
He married Ysidra Garcia October 16, 1883 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Juan Garcia.
They had one known child:
a. Daughter Maria Ramirez was born in 1887.
She married Pablo Hinojos November 9, 1905 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
His mother was Eustacia Hinojos.
(5). Daughter Eulalia Ramirez was born in 1864.
She married Emiterio Bustamante in Jesus Nazareno Temple November 24, 1879.
He was the son of Juan Jose Bustamante and Benigna Martinez.
(6). Daughter Petra Ramirez was born in 1867.
She married Pascual Bustamante in Jesus Nazareno Temple June 27, 1883.
He was the son of Juan Jose Bustamante and Benigna Martinez.
(7). Son Wenceslao Ramirez was born in 1868.
He married Juana Suchil May 26, 1890 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Jacinto Suchil and Antonia Contreras.
For additional information on this family, please see http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/wenceslado-ramirez.html
(8). Daughter Herculana Ramirez was born in 1871.
She married Miguel Marquez in Jesus Nazareno Temple November 7, 1889.
He was the son of Dionicio Marquez and Teodora Alvarez.
(9). Son Herculano Ramirez was born in 1873.
He married Rita Franco February 22, 1898 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Atanacio Franco and Bartola Baeza.
(10). Son Nicasio Ramirez was born in 1876.
He married Leonarda Jaquez in Jesus Nazareno Temple January 8, 1902.
She was the daughter of Felipe Jaquez and Feliciana Carrasco.
(11). Son Martin Ramirez was born in 1876.
He married Concepcion Sanchez Alvarez in Jesus Nazareno Temple May 7, 1897.
She was the daughter of Roman Sanchez Alvarez and Maria Antonia Terrazas.
1. Luis Ramírez born circa 1825 married Dominga Leyva October 11, 1847.
2. Juan Ramírez married Guadalupe Contreras November 24, 1859.
Juan and Guadalupe had two children:
(A) Daughter Jesús Ramírez born 1863 and died the same year
(B) Daughter Praxedis Ramírez born in 1875. She married Filberto Vásquez Feb 1, 1892.
3. Jesus Ramirez married Natividad Carrasco July 13, 1850 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
They had eleven children.
(1). Daughter Canuta Ramirez was baptized in Jesus Nazareno Temple January 27, 1853.
She married Jose Oliveres July 24, 1869 in the same church.
They had two children:
a. Daughter Mariana Oliveres was born in 1874 in Mexico.
She married Jesús Garcia February 13, 1888 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
By 1900 they had settled in the village of La Coyota, along the Rio Grande River about two miles west of Castolon, Texas.
Jesus engaged in farming, raised some sheep and goats, and sold fuel wood to the mining companies in Terlingua and Study Butte.
Mariana and Jesus had thirteen children. See http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/jesus-garcia.html for details.
b. Daughter Maria Jesus Oliveres was born in 1877 in Ojinaga.
She married Tiburcio Ramirez, her first cousin, circa 1900,
and in 1909 the couple settled in La Coyota, near the home of Jesus' sister Mariana.
For details see the Tiburcio Ramirez Family History at http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/tiburcio-ramirez.html
(2). Son Crispín Ramirez was born in 1854 in Ojinaga.
He married Micaela Tercero in Jesus Nazareno Temple June 10, 1875.
She was the daughter of Marcos Tercero and Dorotea Flores and was born in Rosales, Mexico in 1857.
Crispin and Micaela had five children:
a. Son Tiburcio Tercero Ramirez was born April 6, 1873 in Mexico.
He married Maria de Jesus Oliveres. They settled in the village of La Coyota in 1909.
For details see the Tiburcio Ramirez Family History at http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/tiburcio-ramirez.html
b. Son Juan Ramirez was born in 1875.
He married Paula Valenzuela, daughter of Felipe Valenzuela and Maria de Jesus Bustamante.
c. Son Fernando Ramirez was born in 1878. He married Elisa Ornelas in Jesus Nazareno Temple November 7, 1898.
She was the daughter of Florencio Ornelas and Leandra Najera.
They had one known child:
aa. Daughter Leandra Ramirez was born April 21, 1909.
She was baptized in Chisos November 3, 1909 by Father Brocardus. Her godparents were Juan and Jesus Peña.
d. Son Domingo Ramirez was born in 1894.
He married Maria de Jesus Carrasco November 11, 1918 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Catarino Carrasco and Hilaria Carrasco.
e. Daughter Dorotea Ramirez was born in 1899.
She married Juan Madrid December 7, 1919 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
He was the son of Jesus Madrid and Sabas Carrasco.
(3). Son Nicolas Ramirez was born in 1856.
He married Jesus Gomez in Jesus Nazareno Temple April 25, 1885.
She was the daughter of Jose Gomez and Antonia Granado.
(4). Son Julian Ramirez was born in 1863.
He married Ysidra Garcia October 16, 1883 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Juan Garcia.
They had one known child:
a. Daughter Maria Ramirez was born in 1887.
She married Pablo Hinojos November 9, 1905 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
His mother was Eustacia Hinojos.
(5). Daughter Eulalia Ramirez was born in 1864.
She married Emiterio Bustamante in Jesus Nazareno Temple November 24, 1879.
He was the son of Juan Jose Bustamante and Benigna Martinez.
(6). Daughter Petra Ramirez was born in 1867.
She married Pascual Bustamante in Jesus Nazareno Temple June 27, 1883.
He was the son of Juan Jose Bustamante and Benigna Martinez.
(7). Son Wenceslao Ramirez was born in 1868.
He married Juana Suchil May 26, 1890 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Jacinto Suchil and Antonia Contreras.
For additional information on this family, please see http://www.lifebeforetheruins.com/wenceslado-ramirez.html
(8). Daughter Herculana Ramirez was born in 1871.
She married Miguel Marquez in Jesus Nazareno Temple November 7, 1889.
He was the son of Dionicio Marquez and Teodora Alvarez.
(9). Son Herculano Ramirez was born in 1873.
He married Rita Franco February 22, 1898 in Jesus Nazareno Temple.
She was the daughter of Atanacio Franco and Bartola Baeza.
(10). Son Nicasio Ramirez was born in 1876.
He married Leonarda Jaquez in Jesus Nazareno Temple January 8, 1902.
She was the daughter of Felipe Jaquez and Feliciana Carrasco.
(11). Son Martin Ramirez was born in 1876.
He married Concepcion Sanchez Alvarez in Jesus Nazareno Temple May 7, 1897.
She was the daughter of Roman Sanchez Alvarez and Maria Antonia Terrazas.
Irenéo Ramírez married 2nd. wife Elena Viscaino circa 1850.
Irenéo Ramírez was married twice and so was Elena Viscaino [Viscayno].
On both their second marriages they were married to each other.
On both their second marriages they were married to each other.
They had one son:
Quirino Ramírez born in 1854, married Nemencía Caño September 9, 1874
Quirino Ramírez born in 1854, married Nemencía Caño September 9, 1874
Reseaech notes:
Elena Viscaino • LDJQ-264 Elena's first marriage: 19 February 1833 was to Ramon Carrasco 1811–1884 • M45T-N2K
Chihuahua, Mexico. Their children:
Chihuahua, Mexico. Their children:
- Jose Andre Pedro Carrasco Viscayno
1838–Deceased • LDJW-KLY - Ma. Juliana Carrasco Viscayna
1840–1883 • KLLN-HHX - Francisco Carrasco Viscayno
1842–Deceased • LDJW-KH1 - Jose Carrasco
Deceased • KLGG-S1Q
Irinéo's baptismal record transcript: Criselda Cantú December 28, 2020
"After "óleos", it says .... "sagrado chrisma" and after María de Jesús Aguilar it says .... "a quienes avisé el parentesco y obligaciones" (to whom I advised the relationship and obligations)."
"After "óleos", it says .... "sagrado chrisma" and after María de Jesús Aguilar it says .... "a quienes avisé el parentesco y obligaciones" (to whom I advised the relationship and obligations)."
Lori R It is Jesus Nazareno. The name San Santiago del Norte refers to the presidio. It was originally called "El Real Presidio del Señor Santiago de la Junta de los Rios," then "El Real Presidio de Santiago del Norte." Eventually it was shortened to El Presidio del Norte, which eventually became Ojinaga.
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Toño Franco Thank you, Lori. What confuses me is that they usually separate the names of the locations from the names of the churches. So "en esta santa yglesia" must refer to the place and the church, right?
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Lori R The church is Jesus Nazareno but they didn't refer to it by name. I don't know when they named it. Until then it was probably just "la santa iglesia." I have seen lots of records referring to the parish thos way- la santa yglesia (or parroquia) de (insert place here.)
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Manuela Venegas
Primo, it is now considered Santa iglesia de Jesus Nazarene de Ojinaga. Prior to Jesus Nazareno the church was formed part of santa Iglesia del presidio de Santiago.
Here is some it’s history I have found. The Church of Nuestro Padre Jesús de Nazareno has become a religious and tourist emblem of Ojinaga on the border with Presidio, Texas. Its construction is made of adobe and dates back to the beginning of the 18th century, around 1700, as part of the Presidio of Santiago del Norte built at the end of the 17th century by the Spanish. The tower was built in 1936.
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Toño Franco Thank you, Lori. What confuses me is that they usually separate the names of the locations from the names of the churches. So "en esta santa yglesia" must refer to the place and the church, right?
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Lori R The church is Jesus Nazareno but they didn't refer to it by name. I don't know when they named it. Until then it was probably just "la santa iglesia." I have seen lots of records referring to the parish thos way- la santa yglesia (or parroquia) de (insert place here.)
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Manuela Venegas
Primo, it is now considered Santa iglesia de Jesus Nazarene de Ojinaga. Prior to Jesus Nazareno the church was formed part of santa Iglesia del presidio de Santiago.
Here is some it’s history I have found. The Church of Nuestro Padre Jesús de Nazareno has become a religious and tourist emblem of Ojinaga on the border with Presidio, Texas. Its construction is made of adobe and dates back to the beginning of the 18th century, around 1700, as part of the Presidio of Santiago del Norte built at the end of the 17th century by the Spanish. The tower was built in 1936.
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The Marcos Ramírez Family
A Documented Research Report by Bob Wirt and Louisa Madrid Version 1, March 27, 2010 |
This page last updated May 15, 2022 with names of Dorotea's parents names:
"Daughter of José Luz Lugo and Mariana Josefa Caballero."
This page was updated December 31, 2020 with Ireneo's baptismal record
and Elena Viscaino's first husband Ramón Carrasco.
"Daughter of José Luz Lugo and Mariana Josefa Caballero."
This page was updated December 31, 2020 with Ireneo's baptismal record
and Elena Viscaino's first husband Ramón Carrasco.
