Luis Ramírez
Luis Ramírez (age 21 or ca.17?) married Dominga Leyva (age ca.13?)
22 October 1847
in Jesús Nazareno church in Ojinaga, Chihuahua, Mexico
They immigrated around 1860
22 October 1847
in Jesús Nazareno church in Ojinaga, Chihuahua, Mexico
They immigrated around 1860
They had eleven children:
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1. Eduardo Ramírez
born circa 1848 in Mexico died in 1867 |
2. José Bernabe Ramírez
born in 1849 in Ojinaga, Mexico, married Longina Acosta November 14, 1870 |
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3. María Luciana Ramírez
born 1852 in Ojinaga baptized January 19, 1853 in Ojinaga married Marcelo Baeza November 28, 1873 |
4. Gabina Ramírez
born in 1856 in Ojinaga married Espiridón Sánchez |
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5. Juan Climaco Ramírez
born in 1857 in Mexico married Petronila Licón |
6. Pascuala Ramírez
born in 1856 in Mexico [1858 per 1870 census?] married Carlos Acosta on December 14, 1884 |
Note: Romaldo Chavarría and Severiano Chavarría were brothers.
They married two sisters Donaciana Ramírez and Rita Ramírez respectively.
They married two sisters Donaciana Ramírez and Rita Ramírez respectively.
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10. Francisca Ramírez
born in 1871 in Presidio, Texas, married Teodoro Villa on February 6, 1886 |
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11. Eduardo Ramírez
born in 1876 married María Paz Domínguez |
Estanislao Ramírez Leyva
married María Barrón |
Three Flags Over Luis Ramírez
On August 24, 1821Spanish Rule ended in Mexico -- four years before Luis was born.
Luis Ramírez was born in Texas about 1825 when Texas was still part of Mexico. He was about eleven years old when the Texas Declaration of Independence was signed on March 2, 1836. The Texas Revolution ended on April 21, 1836. Luis was about twenty years old, when Texas became part of the United States on 29 Dec 1845. But at that time Texas did not include what is today west Texas.
On August 24, 1821Spanish Rule ended in Mexico -- four years before Luis was born.
Luis Ramírez was born in Texas about 1825 when Texas was still part of Mexico. He was about eleven years old when the Texas Declaration of Independence was signed on March 2, 1836. The Texas Revolution ended on April 21, 1836. Luis was about twenty years old, when Texas became part of the United States on 29 Dec 1845. But at that time Texas did not include what is today west Texas.
The 1870 US Census for Presidio Del Norte in Presidio County
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-69YT-N5?i=6&cc=1438024&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMXGH-HB2
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-69YT-N5?i=6&cc=1438024&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMXGH-HB2
Research Notes and Questions
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The Marcos Ramírez Family
A Documented Research Report by Bob Wirt and Louisa Madrid Version 1; Mar 27, 2010 |
*Rita's death certificate shows her birth as 22 May 1859. The following is from Bob Wirt's research:
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Bob Wirt found six sources of information on Rita's birth year; below is each source and the year it implies for Rita's birth year:
1880 census she was 17 = 1863 1900 census she was 41 = 1859 This is not likely since her younger sister was born may 24, 1859 1910 census she was 54 = 1856 1920 census she was 50 = 1870 1930 census she was 67 = 1863 "[Rita's] death certificate shows May 22, 1859. This is not likely since her younger sister was born may 24, 1859. I doubt if we will ever get any more data on her birth year, so it comes down to making an educated guess. I believed that somewhere in the 1859-1863 range was likely and picked 1861 because if seemed to fit in best with the others." Bob Wirt Nore: in March of 2020 Antonio Franco found the 1870 US Census that shows her age as 9 on 11 Aug 1870 which corresponds with Bob's guess of 1861. You can see the 1870 census record below. |
The 1870 Census indicates that Luis and his wife Dominga were born in Texas but this might not be true. They are also said to have immigrated to Presidio Texas between the birth of their 7th child Donaciana and their 8th child Rita.
"For sure I descend from one branch. I descend from Estanislao Ramírez Leyva the son of Luis Ramirez and Dominga Leyva.
He is missing from your website.
Luis Ramirez father of
Estanislado Ramirez father of
Estanislada Ramirez (wife of Yrineo Montoya) mother of Ricardo Montoya (husband of Eladia Flotte)
father of Maria Montoya
mother of Maria Sabinas
mother of Obed Estrada (ME)."
He is missing from your website.
Luis Ramirez father of
Estanislado Ramirez father of
Estanislada Ramirez (wife of Yrineo Montoya) mother of Ricardo Montoya (husband of Eladia Flotte)
father of Maria Montoya
mother of Maria Sabinas
mother of Obed Estrada (ME)."
The following is from FamilySearch at www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KLY7-4P6
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Image 7 of 12 from the 1870 US Census for Presidio del Norte in Presidio County shows the family from lines 16 to 31. There is an interesting question on how the census enumerator entered the Luis Ramírez household into the census sheet. They lived in household 40 which is shown on line 17 (Dominga Leyva) but the family starts earlier on line 15 (Bernabe Ramirez). So Bernabe and his father Luis Ramirez (line 16) are shown outside the household. Even more curious is that inside their household (40) there is a Larken Landrum and his wife and several of their children. In fact, Landrum is the only person on the sheet that shows he owns real estate ($300). It leaves a lot of questions as to whether this reflects the reality or if the Ramirez family lived with the Landrum family.
This 1870 census record can be found in FamilySearch at the following URL link.
It is image 7 of 12 for Presidio del Norte [this appears to be the official name for the town of Presidio]
It is image 7 of 12 for Presidio del Norte [this appears to be the official name for the town of Presidio]
