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Luis Ramírez


Luis Lugo Ramírez KLY7-WXZ
born (circa 1825? or 1830 per 1870 census) in Texas
Dominga Leyva LDTG-M37
born in 1834 in Texas
birth year and date based on 1870 US Census 


Luis Ramírez (age 21 or ca.17?) married Dominga Leyva (age ca.13?)
22 October 1847
in Jesús Nazareno church in Ojinaga, Chihuahua, Mexico
They immigrated around 1860


They had eleven children:

1. Eduardo Ramírez
born circa 1848 in Mexico
died in 1867

2. José Bernabe Ramírez
born in 1849 in Ojinaga, Mexico,
married Longina Acosta November 14, 1870

3. María Luciana Ramírez
born 1852 in Ojinaga
baptized January 19, 1853 in Ojinaga
married Marcelo Baeza November 28, 1873

4. Gabina Ramírez
born in 1856 in Ojinaga
married Espiridón Sánchez

5. Juan Climaco Ramírez
born
in 1857 in Mexico
married Petronila Licón

6. Pascuala Ramírez
born in 1856 in Mexico [1858 per 1870 census?]
married Carlos Acosta on December 14, 1884

7. Donaciana  Ramírez
born May 24, 1859 in Mexico
married Romaldo Chavarría on July 4, 1877

They immigrated
to Presidio
between 1859 to 1861
8. Rita Ramírez
born 1861 in Presidio, TX
married Severiano Chavarría on February 7, 1876
died  26 Feb 1941 in Fort Stockton, TX
Note: Romaldo Chavarría and Severiano Chavarría were brothers.
They married two sisters Donaciana Ramírez and Rita Ramírez respectively.

9. Antonia Ramírez
born in 1862 in Presidio
married Carlos Pando
Antonia Ramírez

10. Francisca Ramírez
born in 1871 in Presidio, Texas,
married Teodoro Villa on February 6, 1886
11. Eduardo Ramírez
born in 1876
married María Paz Domínguez

Estanislao Ramírez Leyva
married María Barrón 



Three Flags Over Luis Ramírez
On August 24, 1821Spanish Rule ended in Mexico -- four years before Luis was born.

Luis Ramírez was born in Texas about 1825 when Texas was still part of Mexico.  He was about eleven years old when the Texas Declaration of Independence  was signed on March 2, 1836.  The Texas Revolution ended on April 21, 1836.    Luis was about twenty years old, when Texas became part of the United States on 29 Dec 1845.  But at that time Texas did not include what is today west Texas. 

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The 1870 US Census for Presidio Del Norte in Presidio County
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-69YT-N5?i=6&cc=1438024&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMXGH-HB2

Research Notes and Questions

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The Marcos Ramírez Family
 A Documented Research Report
by Bob Wirt and Louisa Madrid

Version 1; Mar 27, 2010

*Rita's death certificate shows her birth as 22 May 1859. The following is from Bob Wirt's research:
Bob Wirt found six sources of information on Rita's birth year; below is each source and the year it implies for Rita's birth year:
1880 census she was 17  = 1863
1900 census she was 41  = 1859  This is not likely since her younger sister was born may 24, 1859
1910 census she was 54  = 1856
1920 census she was 50  = 1870
1930 census she was 67  = 1863
"[Rita's] death certificate shows May 22, 1859. This is not likely since her younger sister was born may 24, 1859.
I doubt if we will ever get any more data on her birth year, so it comes down to making an educated guess. I believed that somewhere in the 1859-1863 range was likely and picked 1861 because if seemed to fit in best with the others." Bob Wirt
Nore: in March of 2020 Antonio Franco found the 1870 US Census that shows her age as 9 on 11 Aug 1870 which corresponds with Bob's guess of 1861. You can see the 1870 census record below.

The 1870 Census indicates that Luis and his wife Dominga were born in Texas but this might not be true.  They are also said to have immigrated to Presidio Texas between the birth of their 7th child Donaciana and their 8th child Rita.

"For sure I descend from one branch. I descend from Estanislao Ramírez Leyva the son of Luis Ramirez and Dominga Leyva.
He is missing from your website. 
Luis Ramirez father of
Estanislado Ramirez father of
Estanislada Ramirez (wife of Yrineo Montoya) mother of Ricardo Montoya (husband of Eladia Flotte)
father of Maria Montoya
mother of Maria Sabinas
mother of Obed Estrada (ME)."


The following is from FamilySearch at www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KLY7-4P6
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Image 7 of 12 from the 1870 US Census for Presidio del Norte in Presidio County shows the family from lines 16 to 31.  There is an interesting question on how the census enumerator entered the Luis Ramírez household into the census sheet.  They lived in household 40 which is shown on line 17 (Dominga Leyva) but the family starts earlier on line 15 (Bernabe Ramirez). So Bernabe and his father Luis Ramirez (line 16) are shown outside the household.  Even more curious is that inside their household (40) there is a Larken Landrum and his wife and several of their children.  In fact, Landrum is the only person on the sheet that shows he owns real estate ($300).  It leaves a lot of questions as to whether this reflects the reality or if the Ramirez family lived with the Landrum family.
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This 1870 census record can be found in FamilySearch at the following URL link.
It is image 7 of 12 for Presidio del Norte [this appears to be the official name for the town of Presidio]

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-69YT-N5?i=6&wc=92K3-C6P%3A518656001%2C519313001%2C519315401&cc=1438024

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